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N.M. So the sword has become my main backhand driver. I use it for everything! It only struggles on very tight wooded shots, because it like to move from right to left at high speeds. This was the first disc I could throw 400ft and it is just a bomber. I prefer the Tournament plastic because it tends to be more over stable but, the VIPs will fly just as far if you compensate correctly. The tour series swords are somewhere in the middle, between VIP and Tournament plastic, but the fly just as far. My arm is to much for these guys Sidearm now but if you have a slower arm speed you should be able to utilize them, in the that area as well. One of my favorite discs for sure!!